Princess Maker 2 Patch
Originally posted by: EDIT: Upon looking at the ripped ending CGs of Refine from Spriters' Resource, there was some side nudity in the ending CGs and a case of underaged (from the back) nudity in the vaction CGs in the 2004 release. That♥♥♥♥♥♥is creepy. I'm hoping they didn't / won't include it in this release because I won't buy it if it has that content in this day and age. There WAS underaged (though obviously digital) nudity in the original DOS release, as well as an easily accessible debug item that would disrobe your daughter at any age. To my knowledge, however, this was removed from the 2004 Refine edition so it should no longer be present in this rerelease. I'm not going to lie to you and say that the premise isn't a little creepy, especially in that first DOS release (which was creepy to the point of child nudity), but it's not a major feature of the game and certainly is toned down / removed in later installments. You just seem to fishing for reactions from a niche fanbase, to be honest.
Well, I hope you catch some big ones, mate. Wanting a game changed to appeal to you is kind of selfish, you don't think? Like, I get finding it uncomfortable, but if you find it discomforting, then you should consider it to be something where you aren't the intended audience. You're asking it to be changed from something where there are buyers that don't find such content discomforting to something that appeals to you since you already find such content discomforting.
Added to this, its asking something that people created, and in this case in particular, Gainax, an animation studio that many people look up to and want to experience the history of, to have a piece of that history wiped away. To look at something created by a group of artists and have what they created changed so that it appeals to you, thus having a product that was not their original vision for the game. While you may view such a change as a small one, its still a change, still something that wouldn't be the same as what was created by the developers.
Something that people want to experience and look back on, to see exactly what Gainax once was during their hayday. Originally posted by: While I mostly agree with you, content is not always put into games for 'artistic reasons'. For example there could be a football game that the publisher decided needed to be pitched at a different audience so added topless cheerleaders. Removing those cheerleaders would actually bring back, not hurt the artistic integrity of the work. Well honestly, I wouldn't have publishers make any changes to a game like that. Publishers shouldn't mess with the creations of developers beyond just making them available to the public. Oh wow, I wondered when people would come out to complain about things like this.
In regard to the marriage of daughter: 1) It really not that bad in the context of the game, the game is set in a medieval fantasy setting. Heck I shouldn't even have to say of all the stories of people marrying family members in stories set during a medieval time period.
Plus it fantasy, so who knows the law of that fantasy land most likely permit marriage of non blood relatives. 2) It one of several endings to the game, and from what I understand not even one of the better endings to the game. If this was a 'good' or 'better' ending I could more of not wanting this, but this is just an 'average' ending, that it seem that players gotta work toward to get. So most players will probably go through multiple playthroughs and never even see that ending. 3) Its your choice to buy it. If that one ending make you feel so uncomfortable just don't buy it.
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Or better yet, just avoid it. As for the other 'unfavorable' content refer to (3).
From what I understand most of the game is fairly tamed, but if those small parts bring you such discomfort then just avoid them in game or just avoid getting the game. Originally posted by: I remember getting the marry your father ending when I played it back in the day, I wasn't a hardcore player by any means so it can't be that difficult. But I digress, I expected that people would defend creepy♥♥♥♥♥♥like this and I was pretty much on point. EDIT: Upon looking at the ripped ending CGs of Refine from Spriters' Resource, there was some side nudity in the ending CGs and a case of underaged (from the back) nudity in the vaction CGs in the 2004 release. That♥♥♥♥♥♥is creepy. I'm hoping they didn't / won't include it in this release because I won't buy it if it has that content in this day and age. There WAS underaged (though obviously digital) nudity in the original DOS release, as well as an easily accessible debug item that would disrobe your daughter at any age.
To my knowledge, however, this was removed from the 2004 Refine edition so it should no longer be present in this rerelease. I'm not going to lie to you and say that the premise isn't a little creepy, especially in that first DOS release (which was creepy to the point of child nudity), but it's not a major feature of the game and certainly is toned down / removed in later installments. You just seem to fishing for reactions from a niche fanbase, to be honest.
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Well, I hope you catch some big ones, mate. You sound incredibly childish to me. If you find it creepy, you are free to ignore it. We are all adults here. If you can't get over some nudity because you find it 'creepy' to the point you'll refuse to buy the game, then eh I have nothing more to say beside 'grow up'. Personally I wouldn't be against having the old DOS version arts put there as an alternative (yes including the nudity) for those who complain saying they don't like the new art.
However I highly doubt it will be added as it would be time-consumming to do. Originally posted by:UNDERAGE DIGITAL NUDITY?! HOW DARE THEY! I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS 'GAME's' EXISTENCE!
THIS GAME MUST BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY FROM STEAM! I WILL BE CONTACTING VALVE, THIS IS CHILD PORN. Hilarious, especially when even 'cartoon' pictures and art of underage fictional characters is regarded as child pornography in countries such as Sweden, Finland, the UK and many others. Frickin' creeps.
What's hilarious is the laws of those countries and people like you that are mentally incapable to discern fiction from reality. (note: I'm not talking about realistic depictions of children). Originally posted by:UNDERAGE DIGITAL NUDITY?! HOW DARE THEY! I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS 'GAME's' EXISTENCE!
THIS GAME MUST BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY FROM STEAM! I WILL BE CONTACTING VALVE, THIS IS CHILD PORN. Hilarious, especially when even 'cartoon' pictures and art of underage fictional characters is regarded as child pornography in countries such as Sweden, Finland, the UK and many others. Frickin' creeps. This game was made in a country that understand the diffrence bitween reality and fiction unless its blood and gorr they tend to go bonkers and censore those in fictions ppl tend to understand this simple basic concept and they do not shove there ignorant backword law and peranoia on others. Originally posted by: Hilarious, especially when even 'cartoon' pictures and art of underage fictional characters is regarded as child pornography in countries such as Sweden, Finland, the UK and many others. Frickin' creeps.
Yeah and 95% of all countries worldwide have nothing against this content, including the USA and most other western countries. Maybe they dont like to fall into hysteria concerning fictional content? Its always hilarious seeing people getting outraged at CARTOON NUDITY but games were you murder thousands of peoples, gun down cops and civilians and play basically a psychotic mass murderer are good family entertainment.
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Princess Maker 2 Refine English Patch
Always nice to see that you got your priorities straight. And again, there is no questionable content in Princess Maker 2.
There is no child nudity or anything of the sort. Yes you can marry your not blood related daughter but its her own will and she is 18 when she asks you in that ending. Same for other 'bad' endings like becoming a prosti.tute. This game was rated Cero A in Japan which means it was for players age 6+. Also nearly 70% of PM players are female in japan.
But i guess all those woman are creepy pedos. Originally posted by:UNDERAGE DIGITAL NUDITY?!
HOW DARE THEY! I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS 'GAME's' EXISTENCE! THIS GAME MUST BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY FROM STEAM!
I WILL BE CONTACTING VALVE, THIS IS CHILD PORN. Hilarious, especially when even 'cartoon' pictures and art of underage fictional characters is regarded as child pornography in countries such as Sweden, Finland, the UK and many others.
Frickin' creeps. It is legal in Sweden, you are completely oblivious to your own country's laws. Originally posted by:And again, there is no questionable content in Princess Maker 2. There is no child nudity i don't know if this dos fall under the nudity part i can see ppl overeacting over this and i cen also see the publisher remove it and that other adult nude pic to appeal to more ppl and to avoid complaints only 1 hours left before the realese. Since there are other games on Steam with full frontal underage anime nudity, i highly highly doubt it. Japanese publishers have usually no tolerance for the outrage factions in the west.
There are far more risky japanese games available in the west without any kind of censorship. Just for example: has way more risky stuff in it, even in this censored Steam All Ages version then the whole PM series combinend. Not even considering applying the easily availalbe 18+ patch to restore the full sexual content.